ReFS support in Windows 10 Creators Update v1703

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  1. mariojuniorjp

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  2. oliverjia

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    No surprise. I know many people love MR but fact is MR is slow adapting new technologies.

    Try Terabyte Image for Windows and Drive Snapshot. Both should support ReFS fine.
    If you have access to Server oriented programs such as Veritas Backup and Recovery 2016, try it out also, I am sure it works with ReFS. Other up-to-date corporate solution should also work, such as Veeam, EaseUS to Do Server, and StorageCraft Shadow Protect should also work fine.
     
  3. oliverjia

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    Now I completed re-formatting of my two main data drive with ReFS, re-encrypted with BitLocker, and transferred all the data back to the drives afterwards.

    It does appears the data transfer rate from external HDD to the ReFS internal HDD is slightly smaller as compared to when the HDD was in NTFS format. But I consider the data integrity feature of ReFS more important so still very happy with the ReFS switch.
     

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    #45 biatche, Apr 8, 2017
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    what are you trying to say?
     
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  7. abbodi1406

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    Registry values to control ReFS behavior

    a lot of telemetry ones :rolleyes:
     
  8. shot²

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    Strange... Formatted my data HDD to ReFS (it's ReFSv3.2 in Win 10 1703), moved my libraries (Pictures, Music, Videos...) back on the disk, all got indexed correctly, but then s**t happens :
    - the Movies & TV app no longer recognizes videos stored in the Videos library
    - the Groove Music app lists my FLAC music files, but no longer retrieves their metadata, everything is 'unknown genre/artist/album'.
    Either the FS lacks some features compared to NTFS (whereby everything works as expected), or these apps are ReFS-incompatible (which is a pity, given how ReFS is sold to us as roughly NTFS-backward-comparible)

    A word of advice : ReFS is definitely not production-ready for the average customer's W10 computer.
     
  9. Super Spartan

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  10. moderate

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    [Info:] All ReFS improvements in RS2

    Hello,

    I just tested ReFS subsystem in RS2 and here are three improvements found, listed as A., B., C. below.

    Let me compare it to RS1:

    1. In RS1 all ReFS formatting is locked until it would applied registry setting discovered in my ReFS thread here in MDL five years before:

    Code:
    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
    
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\MiniNT]
    "AllowRefsFormatOverNonmirrorVolume"=dword:00000001
    
    2. In RS1 there are two ReFS versions v3-1 and v1-2, but v3-1 is still beta. v3-1 format is locked again until it would be applied another registry setting also tracked down in my thread one year ago:

    Code:
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\FileSystemUtilities]
    "RefsFormatVersion"=dword:00000002
    
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\FileSystemUtilities]
    "RefsFormatVersion"=dword:00000002
    
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet002\Control\FileSystemUtilities]
    "RefsFormatVersion"=dword:00000002
    
    After importing both REGs:
    v3-1 ReFS can be formatted:
    format d: /u /fs:refs /i:enable
    v1-2 ReFS can be formatted:
    format d: /u fs:refsv1 /i:enable
    (Before 2nd REG is applied both /fs:refs and /fs:refsv1 formats version v1-2.)

    Now to the great improvements of RS2:

    A. As you can see by:
    Code:
    fsutil fsinfo refsinfo D:
    v3-x ReFS jumped to v3-2 and this version is final.

    B. Formatting is limited only for ReFS v1-2:
    format d: /u fs:refsv1 /i:enable
    Unlocking REG is same:
    Code:
    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
    
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\MiniNT]
    "AllowRefsFormatOverNonmirrorVolume"=dword:00000001
    
    Note, that this registry setting should be used only temporarily for v1-2 ReFS format and then disabled, because it sets your OS as WinPE (MiniNT).
    v3-2 ReFS formatting is no more locked.
    Apart of W8-1-1 compatibility there is however no reason to use legacy v1-2 ReFS.

    C. v3-2 ReFS format command is no longer redirected to v1-2 ReFS formatting, so this:
    format d: /u /fs:refs /i:enable
    now formats v3-2 without any REG setting.
    v1-2 ReFS is formatted like this:
    format d: /u fs:refsv1 /i:enable

    Note, that /i:enable option should be always used in any ReFS formatting, since it enables Integrity Streams Recovering.
     
  11. Tito

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    I've merged your thread with the existing similar thread by oliverjia.
     
  12. Super Spartan

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    so we still can't format the boot drive as ReFS?
     
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  13. moderate

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    What exactly has happened to EFA11?
     
  14. Myrrh

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    What will happen to all of us eventually. Click the link in Tito's signature.
     
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  15. Rock Hunter

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    I use a disk partitioning utility called AOMEI Partition Assistant Free Edition. It will recognize a drive formatted in RFS except for the Volume Label. I have one drive now in RFS for testing. The Windows Explorer reads it fine including the label but AOMEI just sees the drive letter and not the label. I will guess they will catch up sooner or later.