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    Quote Originally Posted by abbodi1406 View Post
    I always wondered, why IE10 is offered as Important, while IE11 is merely Optional
    although both needs "optional" Platfrom Update, and IE10 is support-ended
    I noticed the same thing, but if you don't know this, who else would be able to know?

    Just guessing.
    I think IE10 support-ended as is, it is still offered to Server 2008 R2 for reasons specific to business applications, in general Microsoft Server applications, like CRM, BizTalk, Sharepoint. It doesn't make much sense as browsing from the servers should be minimal, ideally at least, except for configurations like Terminal Server (Remote Desktop Host) or Citrix XenApp.

    My point of view is that IE11 is not so much different when compared to IE10, only that it sends a more neutral (not IE like) browser agent string.
    For that reason, IE10 is more compatible, while offering essentially the same functionality with IE11.

    I am not sure if IE10 is still offered to Windows 7. This is easy to test, by hiding IE11, I only did not test recently.

    I think IE11 used to be Optional but now comes as Important on a new installation, without being offered IE10 first.
    IE10 is not expired like IE9, so it should still be available.

    The Platform Update is another thing. It is Optional by itself, but if you install IE10/11 from Windows Update or even from the IE downloaded installer without the pre-requisites while allowing Internet access, the Platform Update is installed in the background, but in the history is flagged as Important. I know that the history does not matter being just a cache, but this is how it appears.

    You are probably right when saying that the difference between the various types of updates, Important (Security & Critical), Recommended and Optional is only cosmetic. In addition, according to WSUS (and Catalog I believe) there are other categories like Updates (no distinction there between Recommended and Optional) or Update Rollups, Feature Packs and Definition Updates (MSE, FEP, SCEP, Defender, but also Office Definitions/Junk Mail filter updates).

    Recommended updates have superseded sometimes Security Updates and as such, there should be no difference other than cosmetic.

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    My wondering is from very recent clean install
    IE10 still important, IE11 still optional

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    Quote Originally Posted by abbodi1406 View Post
    My wondering is from very recent clean install
    IE10 still important, IE11 still optional
    I will do another test soon.
    I was under the impression that IE11 is presented as important for new installs only with SP1 right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ch100 View Post
    I will do another test soon.
    I was under the impression that IE11 is presented as important for new installs only with SP1 right now.
    I did repeated tests, removed SoftwareDistribution and still the same result.
    IE11 comes as Important, by hiding it IE10 comes as Important and by hiding IE10, IE9 is no longer offered as it was expired.
    It is not in the Recommended category, Recommended check box is unticked and the Recommended updates are listed under Optional with Italic characters.
    Maybe the specs would make a difference:
    I am testing with a Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit with 6GB RAM.
    Nothing is installed, except for SP1 (without KB2533552) but the agent 7.6.7600.320 is installed as it cannot be easily avoided, unless installing a later one.

    EDIT: I actually had .NET Framework 4.6.2 installed manually as one of the 4.x versions is required for the XenTools I use in the virtual machine.
    I don't think this would make a difference though.
    Last edited by ch100; Yesterday at 13:52.

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    Well, my tests are all x86 (VM, real machine), and IE11 is in the optional section with Platform Update, both not italic
    i'll make a clean x64 install to check for differences

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