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Wonder Woman
01 Aug 2012, 14:53
My roommate has just bought a new PC with Intel USB 3.0 eXtensible host controller.

Microsoft Windows 7 installation ISO image file doesn't provide native USB 3.0 drivers but I was told that Microsoft Windows 8 does.

Could someone here on this forum show me how to extract USB 3.0 drivers from Microsoft Windows 8 Consumer Preview Release? And incorporate/slipstream them into Windows 7 installation ISO image?

Thanks in advance.

[email protected]
01 Aug 2012, 19:40
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bchat
01 Aug 2012, 19:55
OR - try motherboard d/l site.

Wonder Woman
01 Aug 2012, 23:33
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Wonder Woman
01 Aug 2012, 23:35
OR - try motherboard d/l site.

Dell's website provides the same file as the one provided by Intel. It doesn't work. That's the reason for my post on this forum.

greyaburton
02 Aug 2012, 00:25
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Midowz
02 Aug 2012, 03:11
Don't know if this is against forum rules, but I've extracted the USB 3.0 Generic Hub Drivers from Windows 8 RP, and uploaded them here:

sendspace.com/file/t0bjkm

You should be able to integrate them with DISM and the /add-driver switch. Remember to do this on both boot.wim 2 and install.wim *

:)

LEXX911
02 Aug 2012, 03:16
I had visited the website referenced by your link before I posted the request and slipstreamed the expanded drivers into Windows 7 installation ISO image file. The result? It failed to work.

Just manually install the darn thing.

Wonder Woman
02 Aug 2012, 10:02
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Wonder Woman
02 Aug 2012, 10:09
Just manually install the darn thing.

What do you mean by "manually install"?

Wonder Woman
02 Aug 2012, 10:16
Don't know if this is against forum rules, but I've extracted the USB 3.0 Generic Hub Drivers from Windows 8 RP, and uploaded them here:

sendspace.com/file/t0bjkm

You should be able to integrate them with DISM and the /add-driver switch. Remember to do this on both boot.wim 2 and install.wim *

:)

Thanks friend.

On the original Microsoft Windows 8 RP, the USB 3.0 Generic Hub Drivers are located in which folder? and what is the folder's name(s)?

In addition, could you show me, step-by-step, how to use integrate these drivers using DISM and the /add-driver switch?

And last question: what do you mean by "boot.wim 2"? I thought there was only one boot.wim for every installation ISO image?

LEXX911
02 Aug 2012, 10:24
What do you mean by "manually install"?


First install the OS. Go to the website and manually download that USB3 Zip file and unzip it and install the USB3 driver. Don't know why you are making it difficult for yourself for just a driver that can be easily install manually.

xscess
02 Aug 2012, 10:31
My roommate has just bought a new PC with Intel USB 3.0 eXtensible host controller.

BTW, what's the brand and model# of the new PC?

Wonder Woman
02 Aug 2012, 17:27
First install the OS. Go to the website and manually download that USB3 Zip file and unzip it and install the USB3 driver. Don't know why you are making it difficult for yourself for just a driver that can be easily install manually.

You either misread or misunderstood my original post. I suggest that you re-read my original post.

Wonder Woman
02 Aug 2012, 17:29
BTW, what's the brand and model# of the new PC?

The answer is in one of my replies. It doesn't matter which brand and model so long as the motherboard uses Intel HM75, HM76 or HM77 chipset with Intel USB 3.0 eXtensible host controller.

mjgr33n
02 Aug 2012, 17:40
First install the OS. Go to the website and manually download that USB3 Zip file and unzip it and install the USB3 driver. Don't know why you are making it difficult for yourself for just a driver that can be easily install manually.

You have misunderstood why he is asking, he is trying to install the O/S but because he is installing it via a usb pen drive on a usb 3 port windows 7 will only install as far as the legacy usb emulation will allow ie up to the point of language selection, after that the usb pen drive will not be recognised as there is no usb drivers to parse it.

mjgr33n
02 Aug 2012, 17:41
Thanks friend.

On the original Microsoft Windows 8 RP, the USB 3.0 Generic Hub Drivers are located in which folder? and what is the folder's name(s)?

In addition, could you show me, step-by-step, how to use integrate these drivers using DISM and the /add-driver switch?

And last question: what do you mean by "boot.wim 2"? I thought there was only one boot.wim for every installation ISO image?

How to install Windows 7 from a USB 3.0 Thumb Drive (FAST installation!) (http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/32302-How-to-install-Windows-7-from-a-USB-3-0-Thumb-Drive-(FAST-installation!))

mjgr33n
02 Aug 2012, 20:21
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greyaburton
02 Aug 2012, 21:54
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LEXX911
03 Aug 2012, 01:32
Are you telling me this motherboard doesn't even have a single USB 2 port or connectors on the MB or this person just want to install W7 using usb 3 port?

Wonder Woman
03 Aug 2012, 04:51
Are you telling me this motherboard doesn't even have a single USB 2 port or connectors on the MB or this person just want to install W7 using usb 3 port?

I have checked and can confirm that the laptop PC does not have USB 2.0 ports. All 4 ports are USB 3.0.

Wonder Woman
03 Aug 2012, 04:54
I will give it a try.

Wonder Woman
03 Aug 2012, 04:57
Don't know if this is against forum rules, but I've extracted the USB 3.0 Generic Hub Drivers from Windows 8 RP, and uploaded them here:

sendspace.com/file/t0bjkm

You should be able to integrate them with DISM and the /add-driver switch. Remember to do this on both boot.wim 2 and install.wim *

:)

Are they 32-bit or 64-bit drivers?

bchat
03 Aug 2012, 05:03
Did you try using a USB 2 stick to install? - my stupid question for the day.

Midowz
03 Aug 2012, 07:21
Thanks friend.

On the original Microsoft Windows 8 RP, the USB 3.0 Generic Hub Drivers are located in which folder? and what is the folder's name(s)?

In addition, could you show me, step-by-step, how to use integrate these drivers using DISM and the /add-driver switch?

And last question: what do you mean by "boot.wim 2"? I thought there was only one boot.wim for every installation ISO image?

Before I can help you further, you need to do some research and you need to be familiar with these terms

Windows Imaging Format,
Also know as .wim files. Most famous names are install.wim and boot.wim.
- There is plenty of information regarding these files types on teh webz, and on a side note a .wim file is a sort of container that can hold multiple images in it. boot.wim on a regular Windows Vista/7/8 contains two images. One for Windows PE and one called "Windows Setup". Integrating drivers for storage devices is required for boot.wim image 2 (Windows Setup) apparently.

Deployment Image Servicing and Management
DISM. Your best friend when modifying .wim files! Do a google search for 'integrate drivers boot.wim dism'. You will find a lot of tutorials on this subject.

If you mount install.wim from a Windows 8 RP install iso/dvd, you can browse to *mount-dir*\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository and find all drivers that exist in that image. The folders that starts with USB are of course the most interesting ones. Since you only need a few drivers for your project, I suggest a manual copy/pasta for the drivers you need. Simply just copy the USB* folders, and add those files to your Windows 7 boot.wim 2 and install.wim * using dism.

I will give you an example here:
(Run this on a Windows 7 computer. This way you already have the tools needed, since they are included in Windows 7)

D:\USB-Drivers\ - contains USB 3.0 Windows 8 RP Generic Microsoft Drivers from the file I uploaded earlier
D:\DVD\ - Contains a copy of your Windows 7 DVD
D:\MountDir\ - A temporary folder needed to expand the .wim files

Open up CMD with administrator privileges and run these commands
dism /Mount-Wim /WimFile:D:\DVD\sources\install.wim /index:1 /MountDir:D:\MountDir
dism /image:D:\MountDir /Add-Driver /driver:D:\USB-Drivers\x86 /recurse
dism /Unmount-Wim /MountDir:D:\MountDir /commit

(Replace 1 with the number of the image/edition you want to add drivers too.)

Do the same for boot.wim 2 :

dism /Mount-Wim /WimFile:D:\DVD\sources\boot.wim /index:2 /MountDir:D:\MountDir
dism /image:D:\MountDir /Add-Driver /driver:D:\USB-Drivers\x86 /recurse
dism /Unmount-Wim /MountDir:D:\MountDir /commit

(Replace x86 with x64 if you are doing this on a 64-bit installation DVD)

When this is done, you now have the USB 3.0 drivers integrated. I don't know if this works or not, since I don't have any system with USB 3.0 nearby, so I can't test this myself unfortunately.

Wonder Woman
03 Aug 2012, 07:28
I will give it a try. Thanks so much for your help.


Before I can help you further, you need to do some research and you need to be familiar with these terms

Windows Imaging Format,
Also know as .wim files. Most famous names are install.wim and boot.wim.
- There is plenty of information regarding these files types on teh webz, and on a side note a .wim file is a sort of container that can hold multiple images in it. boot.wim on a regular Windows Vista/7/8 contains two images. One for Windows PE and one called "Windows Setup". Integrating drivers for storage devices is required for boot.wim image 2 (Windows Setup) apparently.

Deployment Image Servicing and Management
DISM. Your best friend when modifying .wim files! Do a google search for 'integrate drivers boot.wim dism'. You will find a lot of tutorials on this subject.

If you mount install.wim from a Windows 8 RP install iso/dvd, you can browse to *mount-dir*\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository and find all drivers that exist in that image. The folders that starts with USB are of course the most interesting ones. Since you only need a few drivers for your project, I suggest a manual copy/pasta for the drivers you need. Simply just copy the USB* folders, and add those files to your Windows 7 boot.wim 2 and install.wim * using dism.

I will give you an example here:
(Run this on a Windows 7 computer. This way you already have the tools needed, since they are included in Windows 7)

D:\USB-Drivers\ - contains USB 3.0 Windows 8 RP Generic Microsoft Drivers from the file I uploaded earlier
D:\DVD\ - Contains a copy of your Windows 7 DVD
D:\MountDir\ - A temporary folder needed to expand the .wim files

Open up CMD with administrator privileges and run these commands
dism /Mount-Wim /WimFile:D:\DVD\sources\install.wim /index:1 /MountDir:D:\MountDir
dism /image:D:\MountDir /Add-Driver /driver:D:\USB-Drivers\x86 /recurse
dism /Unmount-Wim /MountDir:D:\MountDir /commit

(Replace 1 with the number of the image/edition you want to add drivers too.)

Do the same for boot.wim 2 :

dism /Mount-Wim /WimFile:D:\DVD\sources\boot.wim /index:2 /MountDir:D:\MountDir
dism /image:D:\MountDir /Add-Driver /driver:D:\USB-Drivers\x86 /recurse
dism /Unmount-Wim /MountDir:D:\MountDir /commit

(Replace x86 with x64 if you are doing this on a 64-bit installation DVD)

When this is done, you now have the USB 3.0 drivers integrated. I don't know if this works or not, since I don't have any system with USB 3.0 nearby, so I can't test this myself unfortunately.

Wonder Woman
03 Aug 2012, 07:30
Did you try using a USB 2 stick to install? - my stupid question for the day.

My friend's USB stick is USB 2.0 but her laptop PC's ports are all USB 3.0. Her host controller is Intel USB 3.0 eXtensible host controller.

bchat
03 Aug 2012, 07:41
My friend's USB stick is USB 2.0 but her laptop PC's ports are all USB 3.0. Her host controller is Intel USB 3.0 eXtensible host controller.

I think a USB 2 stick will work in a USB 3 port, it does for me. I'd give it a try anyway.

Midowz
03 Aug 2012, 07:46
I think a USB 2 stick will work in a USB 3 port, it does for me. I'd give it a try anyway.

A USB 3.0 Port is a USB 3.0 Port regardless of the peripheral being connected to it. So, connecting a USB 2.0 peripheral to a USB 3.0 Port would still require USB 3.0 drivers for the controller. No doubt about that.

DummyPLUG
03 Aug 2012, 08:13
May be you can try rt7lite, I use that to slipstream the asmedia usb and RSTe driver.

bchat
03 Aug 2012, 08:28
A USB 3.0 Port is a USB 3.0 Port regardless of the peripheral being connected to it. So, connecting a USB 2.0 peripheral to a USB 3.0 Port would still require USB 3.0 drivers for the controller. No doubt about that.

When all else fails - try ANYTHING. If this is a new PC, what OS is on it?

Wonder Woman
03 Aug 2012, 15:10
When all else fails - try ANYTHING. If this is a new PC, what OS is on it?

Windows 7 Home Premium with SP1 (x64)

LEXX911
03 Aug 2012, 15:53
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mjgr33n
03 Aug 2012, 16:56
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mjgr33n
03 Aug 2012, 17:24
So far I have tested this with Intel USB3 1.0.5.235 & ASMedia USB3 1.14.10.0 drivers.

Have also integrated Renesas USB3 2.1.36.0 drivers but not had a chance to test them.

Wonder Woman
03 Aug 2012, 23:12
Ok I have updated the information with the command that allows you to recurse the drivers, so if you have a lot of them it will just add every single one in the folder you specify, I have tested the resultant boot.wim myself and it allows me to install Windows 7 on a usb3 port with a usb3 pen drive which I could not do before :) -

Thanks for the info.

In your example given, you wrote:


dism /mount-wim /wimfile:boot.wim /index:2 /mountdir:mount

Question: what is index:2 ??

Wonder Woman
03 Aug 2012, 23:14
Before I can help you further, you need to do some research and you need to be familiar with these terms

Windows Imaging Format,
Also know as .wim files. Most famous names are install.wim and boot.wim.
- There is plenty of information regarding these files types on teh webz, and on a side note a .wim file is a sort of container that can hold multiple images in it. boot.wim on a regular Windows Vista/7/8 contains two images. One for Windows PE and one called "Windows Setup". Integrating drivers for storage devices is required for boot.wim image 2 (Windows Setup) apparently.

Deployment Image Servicing and Management
DISM. Your best friend when modifying .wim files! Do a google search for 'integrate drivers boot.wim dism'. You will find a lot of tutorials on this subject.

If you mount install.wim from a Windows 8 RP install iso/dvd, you can browse to *mount-dir*\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository and find all drivers that exist in that image. The folders that starts with USB are of course the most interesting ones. Since you only need a few drivers for your project, I suggest a manual copy/pasta for the drivers you need. Simply just copy the USB* folders, and add those files to your Windows 7 boot.wim 2 and install.wim * using dism.

I will give you an example here:
(Run this on a Windows 7 computer. This way you already have the tools needed, since they are included in Windows 7)

D:\USB-Drivers\ - contains USB 3.0 Windows 8 RP Generic Microsoft Drivers from the file I uploaded earlier
D:\DVD\ - Contains a copy of your Windows 7 DVD
D:\MountDir\ - A temporary folder needed to expand the .wim files

Open up CMD with administrator privileges and run these commands
dism /Mount-Wim /WimFile:D:\DVD\sources\install.wim /index:1 /MountDir:D:\MountDir
dism /image:D:\MountDir /Add-Driver /driver:D:\USB-Drivers\x86 /recurse
dism /Unmount-Wim /MountDir:D:\MountDir /commit

(Replace 1 with the number of the image/edition you want to add drivers too.)

Do the same for boot.wim 2 :

dism /Mount-Wim /WimFile:D:\DVD\sources\boot.wim /index:2 /MountDir:D:\MountDir
dism /image:D:\MountDir /Add-Driver /driver:D:\USB-Drivers\x86 /recurse
dism /Unmount-Wim /MountDir:D:\MountDir /commit

(Replace x86 with x64 if you are doing this on a 64-bit installation DVD)

When this is done, you now have the USB 3.0 drivers integrated. I don't know if this works or not, since I don't have any system with USB 3.0 nearby, so I can't test this myself unfortunately.

I have a question: what are index: 1 and index:2 ??

urie
03 Aug 2012, 23:27
I knew someone would ask that is why I mentioned it in How to install Windows 7 from a USB 3.0 Thumb Drive (FAST installation!) (http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/32302-How-to-install-Windows-7-from-a-USB-3-0-Thumb-Drive-%28FAST-installation!%29?p=601397&viewfull=1#post601397)


I think you should mention.

Image Index: 1 is Microsoft Windows PE (x86)
-------------------
Image Index: 2 is Microsoft Windows Setup (x86)
-------------------

Wonder Woman
04 Aug 2012, 01:14
I knew someone would ask that is why I mentioned it in How to install Windows 7 from a USB 3.0 Thumb Drive (FAST installation!) (http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/32302-How-to-install-Windows-7-from-a-USB-3-0-Thumb-Drive-%28FAST-installation%21%29?p=601397&viewfull=1#post601397)

When I am done with integrating the USB 3.0 drivers, will my ISO file end up with two boot.wim ?

mjgr33n
04 Aug 2012, 01:49
When I am done with integrating the USB 3.0 drivers, will my ISO file end up with two boot.wim ?

You don't need an iso file if you installing from a pen drive, just copy all the files and folders to the root of the pen drive as long as you made it bootable before by cleaning it, making new partition and making it active and of course formatting it it will be fine, also you will not end up with 2 boot.wim files only one even if you do both index's which you don't need to do you are still only editing the single boot.wim file, if you have 7-zip installed right click on the boot.wim file and open it in 7-zip and have a look at the structure it gives, it might make more sense to you then :)

urie
04 Aug 2012, 01:50
When I am done with integrating the USB 3.0 drivers, will my ISO file end up with two boot.wim ?

No one boot.wim with two images inside it. Just like windows 7 install.wim has more than one version of windows.

remzicavdar
04 Aug 2012, 03:15
Just manually install the darn thing.

Yes manualy installing the driver is far less work than you are doing right know :yeahright:

mjgr33n
04 Aug 2012, 03:29
Play around with tools like gimagex and open up both your boot.wim and install.wim and have a look at them, once you have see what an index is etc it might help plus like I said if you open one up using 7zip you can see the structure is very much like opening up your C Drive on your machine with folders such as Windows, Program Files, Program Data, Users, etc.

mjgr33n
04 Aug 2012, 03:43
Yes manualy installing the driver is far less work than you are doing right know :yeahright:

It sounds like they only have usb3 ports on the laptop they are trying to install to hence they cannot do any sort of installation, let alone a manual one :p Plenty of laptops do not have dvd rom drives to install it via there and you cannot use an external one over usb3 or you run into the same issue :p

Even if they did have usb2 ports it is nice to take advantage of the extra speed of usb3 if you have a fast usb3 pen drive like the Super Talent ST4 I am using, you get a nice boost compared to usb2 speeds.

But with the way things are going it will not be long before all new laptops have only usb3 ports and then we would be stuck unless we did this or MS made new iso's with usb3 support (which I guess they won't for a while as they will be pushing Windows 8).

Also the time it takes to put the drivers into the boot.wim is about 2 minutes once you have WAIK installed and have the drivers, not really a long time.

If we gave up on something because it was time consuming or because some random person told you not to bother we would all be buying MS Windows full price retail boxes.

And sometimes it is just nice to play around with these things just cause you can and you want to see how things work :)

Wonder Woman
04 Aug 2012, 04:58
It sounds like they only have usb3 ports on the laptop they are trying to install to hence they cannot do any sort of installation, let alone a manual one :p Plenty of laptops do not have dvd rom drives to install it via there and you cannot use an external one over usb3 or you run into the same issue :p

What you wrote above is absolutely correct. I just don't understand why some forum members insisted on me manually installing the USB 3.0 drivers. I suppose they assumed that I have already installed Windows 7 on the laptop PC which isn't the case.

XpamAmAdEuS
04 Aug 2012, 06:39
Easiest way its to use rt7lite and integrate it to boot image.
U dont need it in install image.

Wonder Woman
04 Aug 2012, 14:59
Easiest way its to use rt7lite and integrate it to boot image.
U dont need it in install image.

I used RT7Lite to integrate Microsoft's generic USB 3.0 drivers to the boot image. The laptop PC just won't boot up.

urie
04 Aug 2012, 15:29
I used RT7Lite to integrate Microsoft's generic USB 3.0 drivers to the boot image. The laptop PC just won't boot up.

Have you actually tried installing without usb 3.0 drivers I may be wrong but isn't USB3.0 downwardly compatible ?

Wonder Woman
04 Aug 2012, 22:03
Have you actually tried installing without usb 3.0 drivers I may be wrong but isn't USB3.0 downwardly compatible ?

All 4 ports on the laptop PC are USB 3.0, controlled by Intel USB 3.0 eXtensible host controller. One has to load USB 3.0 drivers during Windows Setup or the HDD and its partitions won't be visible.

=)(=
04 Aug 2012, 22:12
Have you actually tried installing without usb 3.0 drivers I may be wrong but isn't USB3.0 downwardly compatible ?


All 4 ports on the laptop PC are USB 3.0, controlled by Intel USB 3.0 eXtensible host controller. One has to load USB 3.0 drivers during Windows Setup or the HDD and its partitions won't be visible.

Yes, it is possible to connect a USB 2.0 drive in a USB 3.0 port and it will work at USB 2 speeds. No drivers needed.