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zikmoshe
02-10-2009, 03:40 PM
I was installing xp on Microsoft virtual pc and it tool alot of time
Is there a good freeware that can do it faster?>
offon7544
02-10-2009, 04:15 PM
I was installing xp on Microsoft virtual pc and it tool alot of time
Is there a good freeware that can do it faster?>
Make an iso image of your CD before, and mount the iso in VirtualPC. It is much faster.
foxhunter
02-10-2009, 06:56 PM
This solve the problem only if the ISO-Image is located on another physical disk.
@zikmoshe:
What time does your installation take? How many RAM does your host have, how many RAM do you have assigned to the VM?
I've seen a very slow installation with only 512 MB RAM (or less) in the VM
zikmoshe
02-11-2009, 04:45 PM
I didnt measure the time bur it some hours.
Itwas done from cd with iso image and the memorysize was 512 out 0f 2gb
@ zikmoshe, change the size of ram in virtual machine to 1GB, i have 3GB and i set it to 1.5GB for my vista tests
foxhunter
02-11-2009, 08:38 PM
I've set up a Windows 2008 Server today with a virtual RAM-Size of only 512 MB. The installation finished within 30 Minutes.
The only difference: I'm using VMWare instead of Virtual PC. You can download a 30 day trial version.
Or you can give Virtual Box (http://www.virtualbox.org/) a try. It's open source.
zikmoshe
02-16-2009, 03:19 PM
I did and it runs a lot faster
thnks
foxhunter
02-16-2009, 03:39 PM
I've talked to a colleague this morning.
I gave him the Windows 7 DVD and he tried to install it on his Virtual PC environment.
The files were copied, but the decompression stood at 0 percent for more than 2 hours. There was no disk activity.
After several searches he found, that the Virtual PC needs to be updated to the latest version/SP
HSChronic
02-16-2009, 06:18 PM
Virtual PC is crap, I mean it is ok, but MS doesn't put much work into it so it hardly ever gets updated and improved upon. VirtualBox and VMWare are the best software virtual PC solutions. Hardware assisted Hyper-Visors are the better solution. Microsoft Hyper-V Server is a stand alone virtual server application that is free, and will use the hardware assisted virtualization that is present in most modern hardware.
foxhunter
02-16-2009, 06:35 PM
That's my opinion too.
What version do you try? As i can see, there is a Virtual PC 2007 out.
But you should use one of the other products.
zikmoshe
02-17-2009, 03:30 PM
I tried vm wares and it worked very well indeed, so I think that is the solution. Unless I told that VirtualBox is better
Thanks
foxhunter
02-17-2009, 03:52 PM
Virtual Box is only better in pricing ;)
My colleague has told me in the morning that the Windows 7 DVD needs more than seven hours to decompress the files.
He hopes that the installation will be finished if he is back home.
PlutoNash
03-14-2009, 07:29 PM
I have used Virtual PC 2007 SP1 + KB958162 (see http://support.microsoft.com/?id=958162) and I have virtualized DOS 6.22Windows 3.1, Windows 95, Windows 98SE, Windows Me, Windows 2000 pro+server, Vista, Windows Server 2008 and Windows 7...without problems. And...with a file size of just 30 MB and a nonintrusive installation, I'd say that Virtual PC 2007 SP1 is a success. Thanks a lot to Microsoft for making this great product free :)
Only things encountered
The only issue I've had at all...is in Windows 95, where I have 4-5 floppy drives, for some odd reason. And I needed to use an update for Windows 95, in order to install it at all. And in order to have VM additions in DOS + Win9x, I needed to extract the Virtual PC 2004 installations. And that's it :)
Virtual PC is crap, I mean it is ok, but MS doesn't put much work into it so it hardly ever gets updated and improved upon. VirtualBox and VMWare are the best software virtual PC solutions. Hardware assisted Hyper-Visors are the better solution. Microsoft Hyper-V Server is a stand alone virtual server application that is free, and will use the hardware assisted virtualization that is present in most modern hardware.
You can enable hardware assisted virtualization in MS virtual PC 2007:)
Robster400
05-14-2009, 09:10 PM
VMWare is the way forward....faultless...
I used it to test windows 7 64bit while i was running XP 32 bit :D
(AMD-V ftw)
VMWare is the way forward....faultless...
I used it to test windows 7 64bit while i was running XP 32 bit :D
(AMD-V ftw)
Only problem with VMWare is the sheer size it gets bigger with every update i,e, 462 MB. You can download VMware Workstation Lite 6.5.2 build-156735 it is an addon have a look herehttp://www.wincert.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=1992&st=0&p=11397&
Info: Reduced from 462 MB to 63 MB (kept only Windows.iso.) Creates a fully registered VMware Workstation "Lite" addon/installer (you provide the serial.) Extract the 7-Zip archive and follow the instructions provided in the "Docs" directory.
Size: 64.3 MB
Robster400
05-16-2009, 03:56 AM
Only problem with VMWare is the sheer size it gets bigger with every update i,e, 462 MB. You can download VMware Workstation Lite 6.5.2 build-156735 it is an addon have a look herehttp://www.wincert.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=1992&st=0&p=11397&
Size: 64.3 MB
While i can appreciate the need for some to keep things small, as a general rule, you cannot argue that storage is not a huge expense & many have plenty or redundant gigs floating around.. so for most it's never going to be a issue.
(thanks for link though :))
@ Robster400, yes you are correct nowadays size shouldn't be a problem, but for me it is not hard drive size but the size some programs take up on dvd i do a lot of unattended installs and it don't take long to fill up your dvd with programs this size another is nero it is getting really bad then you have the size of your install.wim if you are using vista.:eek::)
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